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Dear members,

If you have some places:
- Listed in the "Family Tree > Import/Export a GEDCOM File > Check Family Tree > Places not Mapped" menu option while the place names actually exist
- Not correctly displayed in your family tree map or timeline

It means that the geographic coordinates of these places are not in our database, or that the process failed to find these places.

Please post here:
- The address (url) of the Wikipedia page for these places so we can get all the needed information
- If there's no Wikipedia page available, the Google Maps address (url) of these places, or the GPS coordinates (latitude and longitude in decimal degrees, for example: 40.741895,-73.989308) and the name of country/state/province/county...
- The variants of the place names if there are some

If there are too many places, just post a message and we will have a look at your data.

Here are some tips that may help you enter the place names in your family tree:
- From left to right, enter the entity names from the smallest to the largest, separated by a comma or by parenthesis (for example: parish, city/town, county, state, country)
- If the name of an entity must not be used by the geolocation process or indexed by the Geneanet search engine, you can enter it between brackets (for example: [hamlet] - city/town, state, country)
- The name of country is not required if it's the same as the Default Country Code entered at https://en.geneanet.org/mon_compte/profilegen
- You must use the actual geographical area (state, country) instead of the historical one
- If the name of a place has changed, you can enter "former place name (new place name), state, country"

There is a delay for the update of the map. First, your data must be indexed on Geneanet. It goes from a few hours (the following night) for family trees with a lot of updates, to several days (on Sunday night).

Select "Family Tree > Update > Advanced Options > Geneanet Index" in the menu or directly go to https://my.geneanet.org/arbre/?option=index&view=options to force the update of your family tree.

There is also a "cache". If you have visited the map, the update may take 24 hours.

You just need to re-index if you still have inconsistencies.

However, a place can't be mapped if it's not in our database even you have updated your index.
Best wishes,

Jean-Yves BAXTER
GeneaNet

Please read our help pages and tips to improve your genealogy research and to grow your family tree:

- https://en.geneanet.org/help/
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barbieri1
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The majority of places in my database are not being correctly placed or not at all. Google maps is a modern place name database. It fails to take into consideration historical names. I have used Italian touring maps for locations. I work the Bettola, Piacenza area. My tree is named Bettola. Most people who look at my tree understand my place name location. Like Pradello. Google maps has that incorrectly pinned. .
jlm
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Dear Anthony,

We are going to have a look how we can improve this.

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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Google maps doesn’t deal with historical place names. It only works with current place names. Navtec locations are more in line with what I use. For instance Pradello, Piacenza Italy on google maps is incorrect. I have bought this problem to their attention and so fa no connection.
jlm
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I see a mistake here in the Provincia (Pizcenza) :
https://gw.geneanet.org/barbieri1?iz=124&n=agostini&oc=0&p=luigia&type=fiche
https://gw.geneanet.org/barbieri1?lang=en&pz=luigi+benvenuto+guglielmo&nz=barbieri&p=domenica&n=anselmi
Here the full list to be fixed :
https://framabin.org/p/?4f2448f7bf89b1b6#NMa9GwpNZh+mMghzvsHFUVRGr/DP2EGbYd77s5N2ACA=

Also there is a lot of people with :
"Provincia. di Piacenza"
(a dot after Provincia). It's better with no dot.
Here an example :
https://gw.geneanet.org/barbieri1?lang=en&pz=luigi+benvenuto+guglielmo&nz=barbieri&p=giovanni&n=freschi&oc=3
(however i've found a way to fix it).

Concerning the people living in "Nogent-sur-Marne" :
https://gw.geneanet.org/barbieri1?iz=124&n=taravella&oc=0&p=maria+maddalena&type=fiche
"Nogent sur Marne, Parigi, France."

It should be :
"Nogent sur Marne, Val-de-Marne, France"
or
"Nogent sur Marne, 94052, France"

Could you help to find those places :
ITAEROPIA|Calenzano;1696
ITAEROPIA|Macerato;483
ITAEROPIA|Pradello;391
ITAEROPIA|Macerato di Coli;196

Others fix :
FRA|Rouchin, Nord. France.;1;
-> "Ronchin, Nord, France"
FRA|Champigno sur Marne, France.;1;
-> "Champigny-sur-Marne, Val-de-Marne, France"

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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I use several search engines. All places were located. I am not going to tell you where they are located. I am amazed that you can’t find them.
jlm
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barbieri1 skrev: 06 december 2020, 02:55 I use several search engines. All places were located. I am not going to tell you where they are located. I am amazed that you can’t find them.
Dear Sir,

I'am really sorry if i have upset you with my message and that you feel i'am wasting your time.

I'am trying to answer to your request to fix the place names not mapped.

I've already worked to fix many cases.

I don't want to do mistakes that why i'am looking for your help.

What seems obvious for you, is not for me.

We have a huge database of all the municipality and plenty of places of Italy but not all the hamlets. We are using geonames and we are carefully adding places.

For example, you have a Calenzano in Piacenza.

I've found this one but not in Piacenza :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calenzano

I guess it's not the good one.

For Macerato i've found this one :
https://www.google.fr/maps/@44.8020745,9.4952406,17z
is it ok ?

For Pradello, it seems to be in Bettola. But where is it exactly ?

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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I am currently going through my place names. I am attempting to stream line my listing to agree with google maps and at the same time maintain the historical name. I hope to repost my tree sometime today. Bear with me. I always check with navtec (garmin) and google to places. My area is in the Bettola, coli, farini, Piacenza region.
jlm
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barbieri1 skrev: 06 december 2020, 15:55 I am currently going through my place names. I am attempting to stream line my listing to agree with google maps and at the same time maintain the historical name. I hope to repost my tree sometime today. Bear with me. I always check with navtec (garmin) and google to places. My area is in the Bettola, coli, farini, Piacenza region.
Let me know once you have update your tree.

I've not yet transfer the updated recognition database on Geneanet.

The best way is to write :
Historical Place, New Place, Piacenza, Italie
Hamlet, New Place, Piacenza, Italie
or
Historical place (New Place), Piacenza, Italie

If the hamlet is not in our database (we can add it on request), then the geolocalisation is done in the new place.

Could you answer to my questions ?

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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barbieri1
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I am using current place names with names like parrocchia di Pradello I use Pradello, Parrocchia di, It will take time but I just posted a new tree. It is not complete. By the way Pradello is next to the home of cristoforo Columbus family near Bettola. I took a picture of the Highway sign. So it is Pradello. Google maps is wrong. Look at find a grave.
jlm
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Thank you for Pradello. I took FindAGrave long/lat.

Could you also give me an answer for Calenzano and Macerato :
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For example, you have a Calenzano in Piacenza.

I've found this one but not in Piacenza :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calenzano

I guess it's not the good one.

For Macerato i've found this one :
https://www.google.fr/maps/@44.8020745,9.4952406,17z
is it ok ?
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Also, it is the same place or different place ? Do you have the long/lat ?
Montebello
Montebello di Pomaro, di Agazzano
Montebello, Comune di Rivalta Trebbia
Montebello di Rivalta Trebbia
Montebello di Battaglia
Montebello di Vicomarino

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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I have multiple problems.
Place State / County / Subdivision Region/State Country Quantity View
Itália Italy 100 View
Renania Palatinado Rheinland Pfalz Germany 52 View
Polônia Poland 11 View
Castela e Leão Spain 9 View
Dois Irmãos, RS Rio Grande do Sul Brazil 9 View
Föhren am Meulenwald, Renania Palatinado Rheinland Pfalz Germany 7 View
Linha Nova, RS Rio Grande do Sul Brazil 5 View
Santa Tereza, RS Rio Grande do Sul Brazil 4 View
Trarbach, Renania Palatinado Rheinland Pfalz Germany 4 View
Duisburgo, Renania do Norte Vestfália Germany 3 View
Bronzola, PD Padova Veneto Italy 2 View
Renania do Norte Vestfália Germany 2 View
San Michele delle Badesse, PD Padova Veneto Italy 2 View
Poço das Antas, RS Rio Grande do Sul Brazil 2 View
Pomerania Ocidental Poland 2 View
Bojanowo Wielkopolskie Poland 2 View
Três Palmeiras, RS Rio Grande do Sul Brazil 1 View
Hundheim, Renania Palatinado Rheinland Pfalz Germany 1 View
Fauerbach vor der Höhe Hessen Germany 1 View
Arvorezinha, RS Rio Grande do Sul Brazil 1 View
jlm
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Dear sir,

We are going to fix the list.

I think that :
https://gw.geneanet.org/bernardobaldissera?n=reineri&oc=1&p=johann
Pünderlich -> Pünderich

https://gw.geneanet.org/bernardobaldissera?n=hastenplug&oc=&p=wilhelm
Münstennaifeld -> Münstermaifeld

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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jlm skrev: 16 juni 2021, 19:43 Dear sir,

We are going to fix the list.

I think that :
https://gw.geneanet.org/bernardobaldissera?n=reineri&oc=1&p=johann
Pünderlich -> Pünderich

https://gw.geneanet.org/bernardobaldissera?n=hastenplug&oc=&p=wilhelm
Münstennaifeld -> Münstermaifeld

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
Geneanet
Thank you for your answer.

I didn't quite understand. Should I do anything or you will fix it from there?
jlm
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bernardobaldissera skrev: 17 juni 2021, 20:15
jlm skrev: 16 juni 2021, 19:43 Dear sir,

We are going to fix the list.

I think that :
https://gw.geneanet.org/bernardobaldissera?n=reineri&oc=1&p=johann
Pünderlich -> Pünderich

https://gw.geneanet.org/bernardobaldissera?n=hastenplug&oc=&p=wilhelm
Münstennaifeld -> Münstermaifeld

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
Geneanet
Thank you for your answer.

I didn't quite understand. Should I do anything or you will fix it from there?
We are going to fix many unrecognized place. But concerning Pünderlich & Münstennaifeld you need to fix it by yourself.

Sincerely yours,

Jacques
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